17.3. What does this IC number mean? Here are a few Commodore IC numbers and their functions. Note that thi= s | is an incomplete list. A more comprehensive list is called csg.chips.i= nfo and is at ftp.funet.fi. For the VIC-20: Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# CPU 6502 VIC-I (NTSC-M) 6560 VIC-I (PAL-B) 6561 CPU 6502 For the C-64 and C-64C: Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# CPU 6510 VIC-II (NTSC-M) 6567 8562? VIC-II (PAL-B) 6569 8565 VIC-II (PAL-N) 6572 VIC-II (PAL-M) 6573 SID 6581 6582 8580 For the C-128(D): Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# Notes: CPU 8502 VIC-IIe (NTSC-M) 8564 VIC-IIe (PAL-B) 8566 VIC-IIe (PAL-N) 8569 | DVDC 8563 8568 (get r9a or r9b if possible) SID 6581 6582 8580 Differences between 64 boards: The older boards had discrete LSI logic and a PLA chip. The newer boards put all the PLA and LSI logic into one ASIC chip. On the older boards, the KERNAL and BASIC ROMs were separate, while they are combined in the newer design. There are two different models of the narrow board. One has Color RAM, while the other does not. The ASIC chip includes the PLA and 7 TTL chi= ps, and the Color RAM on some machines machines. The new models use 9 volt versions 8580 SID, while older models use the 6581 12 volt SID. The VIC chip (6567 NTSC-M, 6569 PAL-B) has been repl= aced with the 8562 (NTSC-M) and 8565 (PAL-B) on newer models. Both BASIC 2.0 and the KERNAL ROM have been combined into one ROM for the C64C/G/GS. This ROM is the same as is used on the C128 in C64 mode. The ROM is indentical except for nationality differences. + 17.4. What are the differences between C64 ROM Revisions? + Well, they have a number of them, and each difference is documented and + explained in "The Commodore 64 Whole Memory Guide" by Tim Arnot. + (ftp://x2ftp.oulo.fi/pub/cbm/docs/c64-kernal.diffs) 18. Credits I want to extend my thanks to the following people for their help in providing correct, up-to-date information in this FAQ: Fred Mueller, who maintained this FAQ before I. Everyone who helped add to the 1.4 FAQ material to make the 2.0-2.2 FAQ. Everyone who helped add to the 2.2 FAQ to make the 3.0 FAQ. + Adam Vardy, with corrections to Section 3.3. + Roger Long, for information on Random Magazine. + Jouko Valta, for information on C65 archives and kernal diffs. + Tom Cwikla, for info on ANADISK. + Alan Jones, for info on a new newsgroup mail gateway. + Antony Gibbs, for info on Commodore Zone. + Gaelyne Moranec, for info on GIF viewers. + John Keyerleber, for info on plans for CBM printer to PC interface. + David Gahris, for numerous WWW addresses. + Marc Frank, for error in cbm-supply-list.txt filename. + Jack Vander White, for address updates. + Jeff Daniels, for info on his company. + Paul MacArthur, for info on X1541 cable source. + Craig Bruce, for info on his FTP Mail Server. + Dirk Moell, for info on blinks on 8050. + Bob Masse, for info on C128 VDC IC revisions. + Alan Jones, for corrections to Daniel Dallmann's RS-232 interface. + Donald Ayers, for information on his GRASSROOTS #1 Disk. + Daniel Kahlin, for info on Over5. + Dallas Legan, for info on Transactor Index. + Andre Fachat, for info on VICE. + Allen Smith, for info on COMPUTERSMITH Internet updates. + Jack vanderwhite, for updates on COMMODORE CEE BBS phone. + Jeff Jones, for updates on LOADSTAR prices. + Frank Ellert, for info on more UNIX-like OSes. + Paul McAleer, for informaiton on Micro-Bytes. + J. E. Sears, for info on PPI. + Jeff Jones, for information on LOADSTAR Letter going commercial. + Chris MCEE, for corrections on Demo terms. + R.T. Cunningham, for updates on SuperCPU dates and info. + Beth Gladen, for uncovering a bug in user group list filename. + Nhat-Viet Phi, for info on his RAMLink User's List. + Holger Heimes, for info on extra BBS numbers to get FAQ at. #! rnews 8817 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentri= c.net!news-master!mariner.cris.com!Gaelyne From: Gaelyne@cris.com (Gaelyne Moranec) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: COMP.SYS.CBM: Repair Facility List v1.0 Summary: This posting contains the names and addresses of Commodore 8-bit computer and peripheral repair facilities, as well as names and addresses of parts suppliers. This posting should give you enou= gh information to contact a repair facility, order parts, or reques= t diagnosing information. Supersedes: Followup-To: comp.sys.cbm Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:29:52 GMT Organization: Brain Innovations, Inc. Lines: 295 Message-ID: Reply-To: brain@mail.msen.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mariner.cris.com Keywords: CBM FAQ repair problem parts Help List C64 C128 VIC X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Archive-name: cbm-repair-list.1.0 Comp-answers-archive-name: commodore/cbm-repair-list News-answers-archive-name: commodore/cbm-repair-list Comp-sys-cbm-archive-name: cbm-repair-list Version: 1.0 Last-modified: 1995/06/05 Disclaimer: This file is maintained by Jim Brain (brain@mail.msen.com). It is comp= osed of information gleaned from articles in the USENET newsgroup comp.sys.c= bm, the FidoNET echoes CBM and CBM-128, electronic mail messages, World Wide Web pages, and other mediums. The suppliers listed are assumed to be operating, but none have been confirmed. If you have suggestions, comments, or criticisms, please let Jim Brain know by sending electronic mail to brain@mail.msen.com. Keep in mind t= hat | companies can appear and disappear on a daily basis. Please let Jim Br= ain know of any changes needed to this file. The latest version of this file may be obtained from the following plac= es: World Wide Web sites: | http://www.msen.com/~brain/pub/cbm-repair-list.1.0.txt Mailservers: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain's Mailserver - always has latest copy) Subject: MAILSERV send cbm-repair-list.txt _Notes for this release_: ----------------------- This is the first version of this list, made off the list that appeared= in the 3.0 version of the CBM General FAQ. ----------------------- Lines preceded with a '|" have been modified since the last version of = this file was posted. Lines preceded by a '+' have been added since the las= t version was posted. If readers of this list wish to make changes, please precede formatted = lines sent to me with a 'C' so that I can see the changes even if you enclose header and trailer text to show context. -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- A&M Computer Repair 24 Conklin Drive Stoney Point, NY 10980 (800) 344-4102 (Orders) (914) 562-7271 (Information) Fixed repair prices are very low, C64 C128 etc!! J&C Repair RD #2, Box 9 Rockton, PA 15856 (814) 583-5996 (Information) (814) 583-5995 (Fascimile) Repair all hardware. Harvey and Associates 1409 Mill Street Laramie, WY 82070 (307) 742-3275 (Information) Repairs and service. Inexpensive. Computer Technologies 121 North Ridgewood Avenue, Suite A Datona Beach, FL 32114 (800) 237-2835 (Information) Standard C64/128 repairs. Kasara Micro Systems | 7 White Oak Circle | Blufftron, SC 29910 (800) 248-2983 (Information) (803) 757-7748 (Fascimile) All standard C64/128 repairs. Has hardware exchange program. Commodore Connection 127 North Sante Fe Avenue #C Vista, CA 92804-5401 (619) 945-8777 (Information/Orders) Michael Hendren (Contact) General repair. Capestany Copmputer Repair P.O. Box 733 Seabrook, TX 77586 Philip Capestany (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics 603 South Mable Sioux Falls, SD 57103 (605) 335-3004 (Information/Orders) Lamar nance (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics RR2 Box 52 Hartford, SD 57033 (605) 361-0632 (Information/Orders) Jim Muir (Contact) General repair. Bear Computer Repair Inc 1005 McKean Street Philadelphia, PA 19148 (800) 755-5295 Repair C64, C128, Disk drives etc. BCE Inc/Commodore Connection c/o Jim Bethereum 13914 E. Radcliff Pl. Auroa, CO 80015 (303) 693-4038 Commodore and general computer/peripheral repair. R&K MicroTronics 34 Hillwyck Toledo, OH 43615 (419) 536-1455 (Information and Orders) Commodore repair and sales. Service Management Group 930 Lancaster Avenue Suite 290 Exton, PA 19341 Gordy Wilson's Keyboard Studio 304 North Maple Suite #203 Urbana, IL 61801 (217) 328-3975 Accurate Data Services North 1414 Fiske Spokane, WA 99202 (509) 535-0590 (Orders and Information) Computer Shoppe of Alabama 310 Second Avenue Northwest Suite C Cullman, AI 35055 (205) 739-0040 Computer USERS 138 North Fifth Springfield, OR 97477 (503) 726-8500 (Orders and Information) North American Computer 147 West Broadway Waukesha, WI 53186 (414) 547-6222 (Orders and Information) Handi Hams System Care of Courage Center 3915 Golden Valley Road Golden Valley, MN 55422 (915) 822-2683 (Orders and Information) Global Upgrades 121 West Nyack Road, Suite 6 Nanuet, NY 10954 (800) 426-8693 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3200 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3239 (Fascimile) RMS Computer Systems P.O. Box 9222 Paramus, NJ 07653-9222 (201) 843-3116 (Information) (201) 845-8250 (Bulletin Board System) (201) 843-3116 (Fascimile) (201) 501-5435 (Beeper for C-Net Technical Support) (201) 801-1953 (Beeper for Other Technical Support) (201) 385-5586 (Online Store) rosemarie_fox@2604.fido.the-boss.com (Information) C-Net 128 and C-Net 64 BBS Programs, Shareware, Used SW, CBM HW, CBM re= pair. They now accept Visa, MasterCard, and American Express Orders. Microfix 3535 West Pioneer Parkway Arlington, TX 76013 (817) 261-9615 (Orders and Information) Repairs PET, C64, C128. Creative Micro Designs, Incorporated. (CMD) 15 Benton Drive P.O. Box 646 East Longmeadow, MA 01028-0646 (800) 638-3263 (Orders only) (413) 525-0023 (Information) (413) 525-0147 (Fascimile) cmd-doug@genie.geis.com (Contact) CMD repairs most Commodore hardware. COMPUTERSMITH RR#1 (Hwy 552 E), Goulais River Ontario, Canada P0S 1E0 | (705) 649-1251 (Fascimile) (In use at night) + (705) 256-0225 (Cellular Phone + compsmth@age.net (Internet Contact) + http://www.onlink.net/community/compsmth.html (WWW) info@compsmth.soonet.ca (Price List) custserv@compsmth.soonet.ca (Customer Service) Service both CBM and Amiga computers. Virginia Microcomputer Services 14800 Build America Drive Woodridge, VA 22191 (703) 491-6502 (Information: 10-6 M-F, 10-4 SAT) (703) 494-0744 (Fascimile) Brian Cotton (Contact) Commodore 8-bit and Amiga Service Engineering Consulting 583 Candlewood Street Brea, CA 92621 Robert Blumenkranz (Contact) radiobob@earthlink.net (Contact) http://www.earthlink.net/users/engcon/webdocs/ Refurbishes C64s and 1541s. + Skyles Electric Works + P.O. Box 1984 + Cupertino, CA 95015-1984 + (408) 737-1632 (Orders and Information) + Repairs CBM CPUs and disk drives. The Computer Nut 2400 Mountain Drive (Shades Mountain Plaza) Birmingham, AL 35226 + Software Link, Inc. + 190 East Post Road + White Plains, NY 10601 + (914) 683-2512 (Information) + Repairs CBM HW. + Unique Services + 68 Velma Avenue + Pittsfield, MA 01201 + (413) 496-9275 (Orders and Information) Commodore Country 1420 Country Road 914 Burleson, TX 76028 + (817) 295-7658 (Information and Orders) + (817) 477 9674 (Fascimile) + Provide Commodore and Amiga sales and service, and carry new and used + software for the C64, C128, and Amiga lines. + Video Reflections + #1 Court Square + West Plains, MO 65775 + (800) 308-3022 (Information and Orders) + jaid@townsqr.com (Internet Contact) + repair and maintenance videos for 1541 and 1571 + Software Link + 190 E. Post Road + White Plains, NY 10601 + (914) 683-2512 + Repairs, HW, SW + Inner Circle Systems + John Pinson + 3300 Rt. 60 East + Huntington, WV 25705 + (304) 525-0015 (Orders and Information 9-5 EST) + (304) 697-0101 (Bulleting Board System) + Computer Bargain Store + (Reid Swenson, President.) + 3366 South 2300 East + Salt Lake City, Utah 84109 + (801) 466-8084 (Orders and Information) + (801) 486-9128 (Facsimile) + slick_rk@xmission.com (Contact) + Computer House + 160 King Street West + Chatham, Ontario, N7M 1E3 + Canada + (519) 351-9866 (Information, Friday & Saturday 12-6pm) + (519) 354-7950 (Facsimile, any time) + buys, sells & repairs Commodore hardware & software #! rnews 8782 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentri= c.net!news-master!mariner.cris.com!Gaelyne From: Gaelyne@cris.com (Gaelyne Moranec) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: COMP.SYS.CBM: Repair Facility List v1.0 repost Followup-To: comp.sys.cbm Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:31:34 GMT Organization: Brain Innovations, Inc. Lines: 295 Message-ID: <4rics6$8mm@liberator.concentric.net> Reply-To: brain@mail.msen.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mariner.cris.com Summary: This posting contains the names and addresses of Commodore 8-bit computer and peripheral repair facilities, as well as names and addresses of parts suppliers. This posting should give you enou= gh information to contact a repair facility, order parts, or reques= t diagnosing information. Keywords: CBM FAQ repair problem parts Help List C64 C128 VIC X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Archive-name: cbm-repair-list.1.0 Comp-answers-archive-name: commodore/cbm-repair-list News-answers-archive-name: commodore/cbm-repair-list Comp-sys-cbm-archive-name: cbm-repair-list Version: 1.0 Last-modified: 1995/06/05 Disclaimer: This file is maintained by Jim Brain (brain@mail.msen.com). It is comp= osed of information gleaned from articles in the USENET newsgroup comp.sys.c= bm, the FidoNET echoes CBM and CBM-128, electronic mail messages, World Wide Web pages, and other mediums. The suppliers listed are assumed to be operating, but none have been confirmed. If you have suggestions, comments, or criticisms, please let Jim Brain know by sending electronic mail to brain@mail.msen.com. Keep in mind t= hat | companies can appear and disappear on a daily basis. Please let Jim Br= ain know of any changes needed to this file. The latest version of this file may be obtained from the following plac= es: World Wide Web sites: | http://www.msen.com/~brain/pub/cbm-repair-list.1.0.txt Mailservers: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain's Mailserver - always has latest copy) Subject: MAILSERV send cbm-repair-list.txt _Notes for this release_: ----------------------- This is the first version of this list, made off the list that appeared= in the 3.0 version of the CBM General FAQ. ----------------------- Lines preceded with a '|" have been modified since the last version of = this file was posted. Lines preceded by a '+' have been added since the las= t version was posted. If readers of this list wish to make changes, please precede formatted = lines sent to me with a 'C' so that I can see the changes even if you enclose header and trailer text to show context. -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- A&M Computer Repair 24 Conklin Drive Stoney Point, NY 10980 (800) 344-4102 (Orders) (914) 562-7271 (Information) Fixed repair prices are very low, C64 C128 etc!! J&C Repair RD #2, Box 9 Rockton, PA 15856 (814) 583-5996 (Information) (814) 583-5995 (Fascimile) Repair all hardware. Harvey and Associates 1409 Mill Street Laramie, WY 82070 (307) 742-3275 (Information) Repairs and service. Inexpensive. Computer Technologies 121 North Ridgewood Avenue, Suite A Datona Beach, FL 32114 (800) 237-2835 (Information) Standard C64/128 repairs. Kasara Micro Systems | 7 White Oak Circle | Blufftron, SC 29910 (800) 248-2983 (Information) (803) 757-7748 (Fascimile) All standard C64/128 repairs. Has hardware exchange program. Commodore Connection 127 North Sante Fe Avenue #C Vista, CA 92804-5401 (619) 945-8777 (Information/Orders) Michael Hendren (Contact) General repair. Capestany Copmputer Repair P.O. Box 733 Seabrook, TX 77586 Philip Capestany (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics 603 South Mable Sioux Falls, SD 57103 (605) 335-3004 (Information/Orders) Lamar nance (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics RR2 Box 52 Hartford, SD 57033 (605) 361-0632 (Information/Orders) Jim Muir (Contact) General repair. Bear Computer Repair Inc 1005 McKean Street Philadelphia, PA 19148 (800) 755-5295 Repair C64, C128, Disk drives etc. BCE Inc/Commodore Connection c/o Jim Bethereum 13914 E. Radcliff Pl. Auroa, CO 80015 (303) 693-4038 Commodore and general computer/peripheral repair. R&K MicroTronics 34 Hillwyck Toledo, OH 43615 (419) 536-1455 (Information and Orders) Commodore repair and sales. Service Management Group 930 Lancaster Avenue Suite 290 Exton, PA 19341 Gordy Wilson's Keyboard Studio 304 North Maple Suite #203 Urbana, IL 61801 (217) 328-3975 Accurate Data Services North 1414 Fiske Spokane, WA 99202 (509) 535-0590 (Orders and Information) Computer Shoppe of Alabama 310 Second Avenue Northwest Suite C Cullman, AI 35055 (205) 739-0040 Computer USERS 138 North Fifth Springfield, OR 97477 (503) 726-8500 (Orders and Information) North American Computer 147 West Broadway Waukesha, WI 53186 (414) 547-6222 (Orders and Information) Handi Hams System Care of Courage Center 3915 Golden Valley Road Golden Valley, MN 55422 (915) 822-2683 (Orders and Information) Global Upgrades 121 West Nyack Road, Suite 6 Nanuet, NY 10954 (800) 426-8693 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3200 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3239 (Fascimile) RMS Computer Systems P.O. Box 9222 Paramus, NJ 07653-9222 (201) 843-3116 (Information) (201) 845-8250 (Bulletin Board System) (201) 843-3116 (Fascimile) (201) 501-5435 (Beeper for C-Net Technical Support) (201) 801-1953 (Beeper for Other Technical Support) (201) 385-5586 (Online Store) rosemarie_fox@2604.fido.the-boss.com (Information) C-Net 128 and C-Net 64 BBS Programs, Shareware, Used SW, CBM HW, CBM re= pair. They now accept Visa, MasterCard, and American Express Orders. Microfix 3535 West Pioneer Parkway Arlington, TX 76013 (817) 261-9615 (Orders and Information) Repairs PET, C64, C128. Creative Micro Designs, Incorporated. (CMD) 15 Benton Drive P.O. Box 646 East Longmeadow, MA 01028-0646 (800) 638-3263 (Orders only) (413) 525-0023 (Information) (413) 525-0147 (Fascimile) cmd-doug@genie.geis.com (Contact) CMD repairs most Commodore hardware. COMPUTERSMITH RR#1 (Hwy 552 E), Goulais River Ontario, Canada P0S 1E0 | (705) 649-1251 (Fascimile) (In use at night) + (705) 256-0225 (Cellular Phone + compsmth@age.net (Internet Contact) + http://www.onlink.net/community/compsmth.html (WWW) info@compsmth.soonet.ca (Price List) custserv@compsmth.soonet.ca (Customer Service) Service both CBM and Amiga computers. Virginia Microcomputer Services 14800 Build America Drive Woodridge, VA 22191 (703) 491-6502 (Information: 10-6 M-F, 10-4 SAT) (703) 494-0744 (Fascimile) Brian Cotton (Contact) Commodore 8-bit and Amiga Service Engineering Consulting 583 Candlewood Street Brea, CA 92621 Robert Blumenkranz (Contact) radiobob@earthlink.net (Contact) http://www.earthlink.net/users/engcon/webdocs/ Refurbishes C64s and 1541s. + Skyles Electric Works + P.O. Box 1984 + Cupertino, CA 95015-1984 + (408) 737-1632 (Orders and Information) + Repairs CBM CPUs and disk drives. The Computer Nut 2400 Mountain Drive (Shades Mountain Plaza) Birmingham, AL 35226 + Software Link, Inc. + 190 East Post Road + White Plains, NY 10601 + (914) 683-2512 (Information) + Repairs CBM HW. + Unique Services + 68 Velma Avenue + Pittsfield, MA 01201 + (413) 496-9275 (Orders and Information) Commodore Country 1420 Country Road 914 Burleson, TX 76028 + (817) 295-7658 (Information and Orders) + (817) 477 9674 (Fascimile) + Provide Commodore and Amiga sales and service, and carry new and used + software for the C64, C128, and Amiga lines. + Video Reflections + #1 Court Square + West Plains, MO 65775 + (800) 308-3022 (Information and Orders) + jaid@townsqr.com (Internet Contact) + repair and maintenance videos for 1541 and 1571 + Software Link + 190 E. Post Road + White Plains, NY 10601 + (914) 683-2512 + Repairs, HW, SW + Inner Circle Systems + John Pinson + 3300 Rt. 60 East + Huntington, WV 25705 + (304) 525-0015 (Orders and Information 9-5 EST) + (304) 697-0101 (Bulleting Board System) + Computer Bargain Store + (Reid Swenson, President.) + 3366 South 2300 East + Salt Lake City, Utah 84109 + (801) 466-8084 (Orders and Information) + (801) 486-9128 (Facsimile) + slick_rk@xmission.com (Contact) + Computer House + 160 King Street West + Chatham, Ontario, N7M 1E3 + Canada + (519) 351-9866 (Information, Friday & Saturday 12-6pm) + (519) 354-7950 (Facsimile, any time) + buys, sells & repairs Commodore hardware & software